Sunday, February 19, 2012
Monday, February 13, 2012
KLSE 10 Year PE Ratio Graph as at 3 Feb 2012
Please note that P/E here of 15.3x is based on FORWARD/Forecast PE on 2012 earnings. For actual PE, please refer to daily posting of KLCI PE ratio.
Sunday, February 12, 2012
Friday, February 10, 2012
Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Thursday, February 2, 2012
Wednesday, February 1, 2012
The Boom and Bust of KLSE / KLCI
A financial instructor once told me, 'If you could catch the few bust n booms of the economic cycle in your lifetime, you will be rich'.
Problem is, it is very difficult if not impossible to determine the peak n trough of the cycle. Which explains why the middle-aged financial instructor is still conducting classes and not enjoying a work-free retirement.
I do not attempt to determine the peaks n troughs of the market. However, I aspire to do better than dollar-cost averaging and buying the index. I do my homework; study the market, the global economy, individual stocks & abit of technical analysis.
At this point of time, everyone is shouting 'The risk of recession is off the table', 'Market has already priced in the worst, grab them at a bargain now before they fly'. Confidence is up, China is growing better than expected, Fed may embark on QE3. Wow, with all the cheerleading, how could one not be excited and jump right back into the stock market 'while the market is still cheap'?
Maybe so for other bourses, but our own Bursa KLSE? If valuation is so cheap, I should be snapping up my favourite counters like a Mega-sale shopper rite? How come I cannot find under-valued blue chips to accumulate? Perhaps *gasp* the market is not cheap at all.
Let's investigate how KLSE fared during times of crisis.
In 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, KLSE crashed big time. From 1200 to 270, a mindbogging 78% drop. No wonder mom n pop swear off stocks forever. Can't get data on the PE, PB nor NTA dated back then.
From Asian Financial Crisis bottom at 270 around mid-1998, it chalked up a gain of 270% to the next top, dotcom.
Before the onslaught of DotCom bubble, KLSE reached 1000 points, which demanded a PE of 27. Bubble popped, KLSE tanked 40% to 600 pts. PE fell to 11.
Then it was all good and KLSE passed 1500 mark, 150% up from dotcom bottom around mid-2001.
11-Jan-2008
KLCI : 1516
PE : 22.85
P/NTA : 3.95
DY : 3.44%
Along came The Great Recession and brought the market down 40%
05-Dec-2008
KLCI : 838
PE : 11.29
P/NTA: 2.2
DY: 6.47%
2 years after the Great Recession, we enjoyed a superb recovery thanks to concerted government effort in flooding the market with liquidity.
KLSE up 86% from the lows of 2008.
22-July-2011
KLCI : 1565
PE: 16.58
P/NTA: 4.14
Then Europe and US scared the s*** out of Mr Market, and we took a tumble, KLSE down 12%.
23-Sept-11
KLCI: 1365
PE: 14.89
P/NTA: 4.16
With today's upbeat sentiment that no one is sinking into a recession and Asia will continue to grow with China leading the pack, KLCI is back with a vengence.
13-Jan-2012
KLCI: 1523
PE: 16.7
P/NTA: 5.15
You call that gloom n doom all priced in?
Once earnings start dropping in the next quarter or so, PE won't be looking so pretty. Global slowdown is a sure thing. The debate now is whether we will muddle through or slip into a recession. Both are not good.
Okay, you may argue that KLCI may go even higher. It is afterall, not at the PE ~20 range yet, and with March Election 'round the corner, KLCI will not be allowed to fall. I totally buy that argument. Perhaps that is precisely why KLCI is so over-priced.
That said, I am still pretty much risk-off as the upside is limited and all the counters I have my eyes on are above PE23 already. Buy VALUE or do nothing.
Problem is, it is very difficult if not impossible to determine the peak n trough of the cycle. Which explains why the middle-aged financial instructor is still conducting classes and not enjoying a work-free retirement.
I do not attempt to determine the peaks n troughs of the market. However, I aspire to do better than dollar-cost averaging and buying the index. I do my homework; study the market, the global economy, individual stocks & abit of technical analysis.
At this point of time, everyone is shouting 'The risk of recession is off the table', 'Market has already priced in the worst, grab them at a bargain now before they fly'. Confidence is up, China is growing better than expected, Fed may embark on QE3. Wow, with all the cheerleading, how could one not be excited and jump right back into the stock market 'while the market is still cheap'?
Maybe so for other bourses, but our own Bursa KLSE? If valuation is so cheap, I should be snapping up my favourite counters like a Mega-sale shopper rite? How come I cannot find under-valued blue chips to accumulate? Perhaps *gasp* the market is not cheap at all.
Let's investigate how KLSE fared during times of crisis.
In 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, KLSE crashed big time. From 1200 to 270, a mindbogging 78% drop. No wonder mom n pop swear off stocks forever. Can't get data on the PE, PB nor NTA dated back then.
From Asian Financial Crisis bottom at 270 around mid-1998, it chalked up a gain of 270% to the next top, dotcom.
Before the onslaught of DotCom bubble, KLSE reached 1000 points, which demanded a PE of 27. Bubble popped, KLSE tanked 40% to 600 pts. PE fell to 11.
Then it was all good and KLSE passed 1500 mark, 150% up from dotcom bottom around mid-2001.
11-Jan-2008
KLCI : 1516
PE : 22.85
P/NTA : 3.95
DY : 3.44%
Along came The Great Recession and brought the market down 40%
05-Dec-2008
KLCI : 838
PE : 11.29
P/NTA: 2.2
DY: 6.47%
2 years after the Great Recession, we enjoyed a superb recovery thanks to concerted government effort in flooding the market with liquidity.
KLSE up 86% from the lows of 2008.
22-July-2011
KLCI : 1565
PE: 16.58
P/NTA: 4.14
Then Europe and US scared the s*** out of Mr Market, and we took a tumble, KLSE down 12%.
23-Sept-11
KLCI: 1365
PE: 14.89
P/NTA: 4.16
With today's upbeat sentiment that no one is sinking into a recession and Asia will continue to grow with China leading the pack, KLCI is back with a vengence.
13-Jan-2012
KLCI: 1523
PE: 16.7
P/NTA: 5.15
You call that gloom n doom all priced in?
Once earnings start dropping in the next quarter or so, PE won't be looking so pretty. Global slowdown is a sure thing. The debate now is whether we will muddle through or slip into a recession. Both are not good.
Okay, you may argue that KLCI may go even higher. It is afterall, not at the PE ~20 range yet, and with March Election 'round the corner, KLCI will not be allowed to fall. I totally buy that argument. Perhaps that is precisely why KLCI is so over-priced.
That said, I am still pretty much risk-off as the upside is limited and all the counters I have my eyes on are above PE23 already. Buy VALUE or do nothing.
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